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11/12/2011 03:35 AM
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Laura Mountainspring
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that is sad indeed...and I agree Adelaide, it is the demand that brings the poachers...both are guilty
like the drug wars in Mexico...if the Americans (USA) didnt have the desire to consume the drugs, there wouldnt be the traffic
humans are a big problem, and yet many are a big help.... we can only take the responsable actions in our own little part of the world...that is our responsibility....its why we wont buy gold.(huge enviroment killer)..or try to buy local when we can..or fair trade when the chose is given etc...
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11/12/2011 11:11 AM
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Stephen Vecchiotti
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Regardless of the demand that attracts poachers and ecomomic conditions that exist in places this occurs, poaching is illegal. Killing animals for the intent of selling them is a crime and should be procecuted to the fullest extent of the law worldwide.
This actually occurs in the US as much as it does in foreign countries. I was speaking to a ranger in Shenandoah National Park in Virginia and she said that poachers are a big problem to the area animal population, especially in the winter when they are not fair game.
Unfortunately though, enforcing this is a huge problem everywhere.
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11/12/2011 12:28 PM
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Laura Mountainspring
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Mel that is very disheartening!!! bet it was someone thinking the cranes presence will cause enviromental restrictions, and felt justified,,,(not saying they were, just a thought why)
we have elk poached here a lot, and they take this very seriuosaly,,,three elk were taken just for the antlers from a reserve, they got the guys over a year later!!!!
my post was to state how we can do our part locally, its not much.,..but if millions are doing their part, it adds up.....
i know optimist....most are unwilling or unaware
dont get me started on what humans have done to the gene pool of eddible plants....the corruption of our food!!!!!
Laura
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11/12/2011 01:42 PM
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Mel Milne
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Laura:
I believe a big part of our responsibilities as nature photographers is to try and help make the public aware of the necessity of preserving our habitat. Oh and by the way I'm an heirloom and organic gardener.
The subject.
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11/13/2011 01:57 PM
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Jane Spencer
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What it comes down to is for people who care to try and preserve nearly extinct species in habitats like zoos. While certainly a solution that is far from perfect, we have to decide if we want the species anywhere on the planet - or not.
While we must do our best to preserve the animals and their habitat . . . we are fighting a game that cannot be won on that level. We may win the skirmishes, but we will not win the war.
There is no way to infuse all of humanity with a moral compass. For whatever reasons: genetics, environment, need, sport . . . the game can't be won.
What we are doing to our environment, the rain forest; the way we are raising our children without a sense of respect, work ethic, essentially with a sense of entitlement; the way we worship our God with no tolerance for the beliefs of others - the apparent cause of all wars - are other battles we are losing.
The bottom line is that people who, by luck or design, DO GET IT, need to do what they can, in thier own little slice of footing on the planet. At least, in that way, we can try to leave to those who follow us the best little plot that we trod.
As for those without a moral compass, I only know that I never walked a mile in their shoes . . . so I have no clue what drives them.
I also garden organic, Mel, and grow heirlooms - yum! they are so much tastier!
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11/14/2011 09:46 PM
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Daniel Griffiths
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http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/animal-extinction--the-greatest-threat-to-mankind-397939.html
Read this article and when your done with this one read another. Then do something to slow the damage we cause daily. Write down what you are going to do here to save your great grandkids lives. 50 percent or more of all species will be extinct by 2100. Teach this to your kids, tell a friend. There should be a class in every grade. Take action now. Everyone.
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11/16/2011 10:36 AM
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Mel Milne
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Hi Daniel:
I have an advantage here in Arizona in that we can eat from the garden year around and very seldom buy produce from the store. A large portion of our 3/4th acre is natural area. We have a community well, water untreated. My neighbors think it is because I am too lazy to cut grass but I have another selfish reason, most of my bird pictures were taken in my back yard. Our well water comes from the Oglala aquifer in the upper mid west which I understand the Oil industry wants to run a pipeline through, oh well, scientists have calculated that it takes 30,000 years to replenish our aquifer from there so I likely won't likely be affected if they have a spill. I will leave it to the younger generation to fight that battle, with my arthritis, the results of 50 years of manual labor in the construction industry make it to painful to march in a protest.
To Quote country singer Jerry Reed "If I'd known I was gonna live this long I woulda took better care of myself."
Mel
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I am sure the next step will be the electronic image, and hope I shall live to see it. I trust that the creative eye will continue to function ,whatever technological innovations may develop.
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Edited: 11/16/2011 at 10:41 AM by Mel Milne
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11/16/2011 11:23 AM
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Laura Mountainspring
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we live on our 21 acres where we only recently got city water...we avoid sprays and poisons and allow the goats and horses to trim the weeds...the goats keep the brambles down very well. we ran geese to control liver flukes, and the guinnea hens the ticks.,.of course the peafowl challenge the bad snakes,.
like Mel most of my bird images are on my property,,,
my hubby was an ornithologist prior to his law career, so he too is very much a naturalist, and endevours to keep our land a sanctuary...Steve planted a small (30 trees) heirloom apple orchard (dwarf stock) 18 years ago
I mostly get the chance to influence friends and church family about better food choices, knowing where and HOW food is grown, eating more local..buying more local.. and simplifying lifestyles..of course this economy makes the idea of rice and beans (and garden additions) more appealing to those who had eaten micro foods before the jobs losses an easier challenge
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Edited: 11/16/2011 at 11:26 AM by Laura Mountainspring
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