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African black rhino

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Mel Milne
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As of to-day the African black rhino is officially extinct after struggling for years with poaching,wars and habitat loss. Most people in the world will not miss this magnificent animal which dates back to almost dinosaur times. I have never seen one in the wild but I will still miss them.
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Convicted pochers should serve life in prison...what's really different about poaching vs. killing a human?

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It's us humans that need to become extinct and return Earth back to the animals.

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Oh really?? That's so sad! And this in times when preservation is a well-known concept. Poachers are to blame, but let's also consider the economical situation they live in. People who buy their catch are more guilty to me, yet they never get caught.

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Mel,

Not actually a relief about the news, but anyway it was a subspecies that was considered extinct, the West African black rhino. I looked after the news, because I have seen black rhinos in Namibia, and although rare they were not considered endangered in Etosha National Park. These are the South-western subspecies.

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Maria:
My mistake I should have done a bit more research,thanks
Still a sad day.
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that is sad indeed...and I agree Adelaide, it is the demand that brings the poachers...both are guilty

like the drug wars in Mexico...if the Americans (USA) didnt have the desire to consume the drugs, there wouldnt be the traffic



humans are a big problem, and yet many are a big help.... we can only take the responsable actions in our own little part of the world...that is our responsibility....its why we wont buy gold.(huge enviroment killer)..or try to buy local when we can..or fair trade when the chose is given etc...

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Regardless of the demand that attracts poachers and ecomomic conditions that exist in places this occurs, poaching is illegal. Killing animals for the intent of selling them is a crime and should be procecuted to the fullest extent of the law worldwide.

This actually occurs in the US as much as it does in foreign countries. I was speaking to a ranger in Shenandoah National Park in Virginia and she said that poachers are a big problem to the area animal population, especially in the winter when they are not fair game.

Unfortunately though, enforcing this is a huge problem everywhere.

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Laura:
Last fall 10 precious whooping cranes were released in a remote area of Louisiana in attempt to establish a resident flock. Of these 4 survive 1 was euthanized due to complications 2 are missing and suspected dead whether natural predation or not, 2 are known to have been shot and a 3rd is suspected as it was in the company of the ones known to had been shot. It's hard to justify this on any kind of economic grounds since one of the reasons for attempting this reintroductions was the possibility of increased tourism to the area including of course birders and photographers. Seven whooping cranes have been shot over the last 4 years apparently just because they are a big white target since the remains were left to rot.
It is interesting that few of the approximately 300 birds in the Aransas/ Wood Buffalo flock are reported shot and the they travel through the central flyway where there is intense hunting pressure.
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Mel that is very disheartening!!! bet it was someone thinking the cranes presence will cause enviromental restrictions, and felt justified,,,(not saying they were, just a thought why)
we have elk poached here a lot, and they take this very seriuosaly,,,three elk were taken just for the antlers from a reserve, they got the guys over a year later!!!!


my post was to state how we can do our part locally, its not much.,..but if millions are doing their part, it adds up.....

i know optimist....most are unwilling or unaware
dont get me started on what humans have done to the gene pool of eddible plants....the corruption of our food!!!!!

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Laura:
I believe a big part of our responsibilities as nature photographers is to try and help make the public aware of the necessity of preserving our habitat. Oh and by the way I'm an heirloom and organic gardener.
The subject.
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What it comes down to is for people who care to try and preserve nearly extinct species in habitats like zoos. While certainly a solution that is far from perfect, we have to decide if we want the species anywhere on the planet - or not.

While we must do our best to preserve the animals and their habitat . . . we are fighting a game that cannot be won on that level. We may win the skirmishes, but we will not win the war.

There is no way to infuse all of humanity with a moral compass. For whatever reasons: genetics, environment, need, sport . . . the game can't be won.

What we are doing to our environment, the rain forest; the way we are raising our children without a sense of respect, work ethic, essentially with a sense of entitlement; the way we worship our God with no tolerance for the beliefs of others - the apparent cause of all wars - are other battles we are losing.

The bottom line is that people who, by luck or design, DO GET IT, need to do what they can, in thier own little slice of footing on the planet. At least, in that way, we can try to leave to those who follow us the best little plot that we trod.

As for those without a moral compass, I only know that I never walked a mile in their shoes . . . so I have no clue what drives them.

I also garden organic, Mel, and grow heirlooms - yum! they are so much tastier!
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http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/animal-extinction--the-greatest-threat-to-mankind-397939.html

Read this article and when your done with this one read another. Then do something to slow the damage we cause daily. Write down what you are going to do here to save your great grandkids lives. 50 percent or more of all species will be extinct by 2100. Teach this to your kids, tell a friend. There should be a class in every grade. Take action now. Everyone.

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Greg and Jane unfortunately your both right. We are losing the war and species every day. Most are not even making the last page in the paper. Each species depends on another for survival. In some instances hundreds will fade away due to one going extinct. We will fade away with them in time. Might as well do as much good with the time we have.


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Drill baby, baby drill, maybe we can get all the carbon back into the atmosphere and make it better for the dinosaurs or what ever follows us. We are the the only species till now with the ability to control our own destiny and too short sited and selfish to do it. All the money in the world won't do much good when the planet becomes uninhabitable for us and it will.
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I have transfered my business into a "Green" one a few years ago. We recycle all plastic,metal,paper, and even shingles. The shingles are put in a hopper ground/heated and contaminants remaved. They are then put back into circulation as they are bought by the Road Commission and make the roads we drive on. My personal goal is to eat at least half from my garden this year and I will plant 1000 pine trees on my property. I will try to teach those willing to listen.

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When I have enough money and time I will start producing the battery operated car that charges from the rotation of the wheel. No gas or charger needed.

When you mix power and money there is greed. Everywhere this is a problem because people think me me me.

Let's use some examples: Smoking took how many years to determine it was harmful to your health? There are things being injected into a large majority of the food we eat like hormones while natural vitamins are removed or lacking. We then take drugs for the complcation our food we ate gave us. Now we are just getting going on the dependancy path. From my observations there are cures natural ones most of the time. It is such a lucrative business and the FDA has such a strangle hold that there is little to do but make yourself aware. Why do you think they put caffien in pop? It doesn't add flavor. I love reading some of the side effects of these drugs or watch them list them out in comercials. I laugh when I hear it goes on and on half a commercial of side effects. Finally they say and you could die as a side effect as they are showing a peaceful scene. They have to say it by law because it is the side effect. We are such a stupid society with so much wasted potential. We are like cattle playing follow the leader to the slotter house. Step aside and educate yourself the truth and get your head out of the sand. If it is too late for you do it for your family or for our society. There are ways to live healthy but it is a challenge now with all the brainwashing of the companies. They do not care about you so you have to do it for yourself or be sorry.

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Hi Daniel:
I have an advantage here in Arizona in that we can eat from the garden year around and very seldom buy produce from the store. A large portion of our 3/4th acre is natural area. We have a community well, water untreated. My neighbors think it is because I am too lazy to cut grass but I have another selfish reason, most of my bird pictures were taken in my back yard. Our well water comes from the Oglala aquifer in the upper mid west which I understand the Oil industry wants to run a pipeline through, oh well, scientists have calculated that it takes 30,000 years to replenish our aquifer from there so I likely won't likely be affected if they have a spill. I will leave it to the younger generation to fight that battle, with my arthritis, the results of 50 years of manual labor in the construction industry make it to painful to march in a protest.
To Quote country singer Jerry Reed "If I'd known I was gonna live this long I woulda took better care of myself."
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we live on our 21 acres where we only recently got city water...we avoid sprays and poisons and allow the goats and horses to trim the weeds...the goats keep the brambles down very well. we ran geese to control liver flukes, and the guinnea hens the ticks.,.of course the peafowl challenge the bad snakes,.
like Mel most of my bird images are on my property,,,

my hubby was an ornithologist prior to his law career, so he too is very much a naturalist, and endevours to keep our land a sanctuary...Steve planted a small (30 trees) heirloom apple orchard (dwarf stock) 18 years ago

I mostly get the chance to influence friends and church family about better food choices, knowing where and HOW food is grown, eating more local..buying more local.. and simplifying lifestyles..of course this economy makes the idea of rice and beans (and garden additions) more appealing to those who had eaten micro foods before the jobs losses an easier challenge

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I hear you Mel and Laura. I am happy I made it through my teens. Now its just smooth sailing. I think we all could tell some pretty incredible stories.
Cheers

Now you have me excited about what to plant for next season. Maybe a couple peach trees. I will have to research but I think they skip years only producing fruit every other year. At least that was what I observed but maybe it was just a bad year and they didn't grow at my brother in laws. I also wanted to get some blue bird houses going. Anyway enough of my rambling.
Take care.




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